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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Apr 30, 2013 8:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Are Deadheads Apologists - or informed Conspiracists?

The more I watch the video of Bobby's crash and burn, the more convinced I am that there are much, much darker things afoot.

1. If you notice as he tumbles, his arm, torso momentarily form a triangle with his guitar and firmly centered in the middle of the triangle is a portion of stage equipment that looks eerily like the all seeing eye. Coincidence or did something nefarious happen at Giza in September 1978? If you look at the concert art from Rocking the Cradle, the all seeing eye has been replaced with a modified stealie within which, the triangle has been disassembled. Was someone or something offended and if so why was Bobby singled out to take a tumble nearly 35 years later? Also, note that the Giza shows occurred in September - the ninth month. Remember the number 9 - hold that thought.

2. If you write a linear progression mathematically representing the chord sequence in Unbroken Chain you will find out that it is an EXACT fibonacci sequence constructed entirely of harmonics of solfeggio frequencies. The Ut, Re and Mi sequence is repeated over and over, with heavy emphasis on 528 Hz which has long been associated with DNA repair. I can't explain the insertion of the 741 Hz Sol frequency just before Bobby tumbles, but I don't think it is coincidence. Perhaps the deconstructive harmonic interference was deliberately planned to make Bobby crash and burn?

3. Bobby's past association with Bohemian Grove? It is no doubt catching up to him. Did he get too close to something? Bobby was in both the Idlewild and Semperviriens camps at BG and no doubt did his share of pissing on the redwoods, but BG is a far more insidious gathering than "The Bohemian Grove, that I attend from time to time—the Easterners and the others come there—but it is the most faggy goddamn thing you could ever imagine, that San Francisco crowd that goes in there; it's just terrible! I mean I won't shake hands with anybody from San Francisco." assessment by Nixon captured on the infamous Watergate tapes.

4. The song itself. Unbroken Chain - look at the lyrics. "Lilac rain, unbroken chain, song of the sawhet owl." The Owl is the unofficial mascot of Bohemian Grove. The Cremation of Care ceremony takes place in front of the BG Owl Shrine. The Cremation of Care ceremony is deep roted in mystery but boils down to an alleged "symbolic representation of the salvation of the trees" (in BG). Except for the "tree" Bobby, who was felled like a tree being sacrificed and was denied the salvation provided by members in good standing? Now, back the the sawhet owl - the sawhet has 9 different vocalizations. The Solfeggio frequencies are cyclic variations of the numbers 369, 147 and 258 utilizing Base 9 arithmetic. The reasoning behind the use of Base 9 has not ever been explained. Coincidence?

5. The 7th and 14th harmonics (note the 7 and 14 are a rearrangement of the 147 cycle in solfeggios) result in a 12-tone equal temperment (12teT) interval corresponding to the minor seventh. Unbroken Chain begins in the key of Dm, yet the line about the sawhet owl is.....you guessed it....D minor seven!!!!!!

6. The lack of any kind of sympathetic response from the band members. Perhaps they had a sense to not render any assistance in fear of future retribution?

7. Either all of the proceeding or he was really wasted and just did a simple, death spiral face plant?


Don't shoot the messenger, I just mark the dots.....it's up to you to connect them and see what shakes out.

This post was modified by Mandojammer on 2013-04-30 15:32:53

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Apr 30, 2013 10:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are Deadheads Apologists - or informed Conspiracists?

Always figured that the Dead were actually the Free Masons house band.

I KNEW Dan Brown was a Head.



In addition to being on insanely over-hyped hack.

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Poster: midnightcarousel Date: Apr 30, 2013 8:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are Deadheads Apologists - or informed Conspiracists?

This is a joke, yeah? If so, bravo.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Apr 30, 2013 8:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are Deadheads Apologists - or informed Conspiracists?

Really, really, really slow day at work?

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Apr 30, 2013 8:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are Deadheads Apologists - or informed Conspiracists?

How'd you guess? But actually I'm at home......where it is also a really, really slow, rainy, spring day in Virginny.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Apr 30, 2013 8:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are Deadheads Apologists - or informed Conspiracists?

It's a lovely sunny late afternoon here - think I'll go and sit outside for a while and enjoy it. Whatever it says about me, right here, right now, I can't bring myself to give much of a shit about any of this. Stay well, Rick.

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Poster: Jacky Hughes Date: Apr 30, 2013 12:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Who cares ?

Me neither (give a shit that is). It's just a storm in a teacup.

It's very telling that Bob falling over or telling the audience to STFU creates a bigger stir than the actual music does.

Something is well past its sell by date.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Apr 30, 2013 1:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Who cares ?

The most serious crime being committed here isn't Phil's failure to kick, I mean help, Bob off the stage, it's the fact that he doesn't seem to know or care that he's making music that has become utterly anodyne and soulless and that is the very antithesis of what made him such a special musician in the first place.

The music never stopped? Well it's about fucking time that it did.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 30, 2013 2:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Who cares...my catch phrase!

Ah, a voice of reason; yes, the only excuse I have for addressing the whys and wherefores of the "event" are that they support one of my long running hypotheses regarding the cont'd "playing" of the band, to wit: they suck, they don't do it cause it's a family loving, creative endeavor of sorts, but merely because it's a cash grab, pure and simple (and NOTHING wrong w that, only it's been packaged as something different, at times, IMHO).

BTW, you (and Jacky) will be pleased to know that in HS my DEAD loving buds and I would sneak into the principle's office once a month and use the "memeograph" (sp?) machine to ink off a little rag of ours (the unofficial high school paper!) titled "Who Cares?" as this was our own little buzz word/motto for the early 70s (we clearly missed missing the 60s, ya know?).

Haven't thought of that for yrs, but it was a topical and irreverent little bit of amateurish journalism that you'd have probably appreciated in 1973 as a youngster, I am sure...I was even responsible for monthly "lyrics" contributions from the DEAD...

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Apr 30, 2013 7:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Who cares...my catch phrase!

Agree with the Wordsmith, but disagree with you. They have more money than they'll ever need... Bob keeps playing because it's the only thing he CAN do, it's all he's ever done since he was 16. It is the essence of who he is. Perhaps his "problems" are rooted in the realization that his playing, and career are basically over. It was a good run, by any criteria.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: May 1, 2013 9:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Who cares...my catch phrase!

Having all the money you'll ever need hasn't stopped a lot of people on this planet from participating in a money grab. Its about all the money you want more so than need in most cases. Not saying Bob and Phil are being greedy, but if they just wanted to play and didn't care about how much they were paid for it, they would probably do more interesting things most of the time. More like Billy and Mickey who once every few years participate in these nostalgia tours but then go back to doing something a little more original and not likely to be as financially lucrative. Bob sort of did this with his little acoustic tour but ever since that Dead tour in 2009 was successful, he and Phil have primarily grabbing the money by being a cover band. You'd think if there was something more to this, we see some new songs and maybe even a Further studio album.

I also think it is hard to compare Bob and Phil to other nostalgia acts. These guys never really went away. Sure the Grateful Dead did but Bob and Phil, in one form or another have been playing many of the same songs, the same way for 50 years (I'm looking at you MAMU). How can that be fulfilling in any intellectual or creative way? At least bands like the The Who and the Stones disappear for a while before they hit the road one last time. I guess i am saying that if simply playing music is all Bob can do and that is the driving force for him to stay on the road, you'd think he would mix it up a little. Phil too.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: May 1, 2013 2:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Who cares...my catch phrase!

>Its about all the money you want more so than need in most cases.

What is the phrase when one adjusts their perception regarding need based on current level of wealth (i.e. suddenly you have needs for all that 1000K per annum, when before 100K sufficed for all your needs)?

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Poster: William Tell Date: May 1, 2013 5:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Who cares...my catch phrase!

Oh, Mrs. Tell had this condition: when we got married, we had $100 in the bank...I couldn't have been happier, but she insisted she wouldn't rest til it was a grand. Some time later, we made the $1000, and guess what? Yup, she said, "oh...yeah, we're shooting for $10k in the bank now..."

;)

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: May 1, 2013 5:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Who cares...my catch phrase!

I don't think Ms. Tell is alone in that progression. :-)

There is a specific phrase for what I described, but I can't think of it- or the right search words to find it.

btw- My bro is a BB fool. Disc probs now, left knee, left ankle and he is still playing in three leagues a year. I have given up trying to redirect- it's his passion. He is a classic 3, 4 position tweener.

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Poster: ColdRain108 Date: May 2, 2013 4:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Who cares...my catch phrase!

its called the Standard of Living

not to be confused with the quality of life

actually opposites

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Poster: William Tell Date: May 1, 2013 11:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Who cares...can you be your own Cover Band?

BINGO!!! They are in fact their own COVER BAND...I know, I know, seems to defy logic, but I think you have hit on a key element in all of this...I know I am being hypercritical to go on and on about "why are they doing this?" and "how come I hate it so much?", blah, blah, blah, but really, I think you have summed it up rather well, and that particular observation is spot on.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: May 1, 2013 11:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Requiem For a Heavyweight

It's what I call Jim Rice Syndrome.

I'm not so sure its only about money as much as it is ego. These folks have been playing at such a high level for so long, I imagine it has to be very difficult to admit they are well past their better days and move on rather than becoming a living parody of themselves (which is what we are now stuck with).

Plus if they just went gently into that good night we could actually get back to talking music.

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Poster: William Tell Date: May 1, 2013 11:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Requiem For a Heavyweight

Yeah, that's why I go back and forth between "it's the $$" and "they are OCD" (or whatever it's termed--they "can't quit", which is exactly what I went thru when, after 30 solid yrs of it, I couldn't play bball any more...had played literally every day, then BAM!, back goes out, stays out, and I've been HERE whining ever since).

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: May 1, 2013 12:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Requiem For a Heavyweight

Lucky us.

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Poster: ColdRain108 Date: May 1, 2013 1:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Requiem For a Heavyweight

Ken Griffey jr pulled the same type of knucklehead move. In 2011 he came back to SEA and had a decent season - for a non-juiced 40 year old - something like 20 hrs. After the final game the rest of the team carried him on their shoulders around the warning track of Safeco to thunderous applause. A perfect send off into a hall of fame sports retirement. But NOOOO! He comes back the next year and it was a complete disaster ending with him running away crying that no one respected him, a complete club house cancer...all because he overstayed his time.

They don't know when to call it a career.

The Dead didn't even know when to take a vacation - like after Jerry almost died in '86, after Brent died, or after Jerry got sick in '92. They should have followed the Stones model and only toured every few years. We might still be seeing real shows.

I guess if I hadn't seen the GD shows I did I'd want them to keep on playing until they dropped (which of course Bob just did).

I'm just spoiled - that and 75$ is a bit steep for a cover band that I once paid $7.50 to see before they became a cover band. For $75 I want something that will blow my mind, not something mildly entertaining. The 25$ I spent to see DSO seemed too high after the event - mildly entertaining at best. Better to just see hungry bar bands.

This post was modified by Little Sense on 2013-05-01 20:10:44

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Poster: Art Nouveau Date: May 1, 2013 10:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Who cares...my catch phrase!

just goes to show how important Jerry really was to this band.
and as i get older,i am realizing that a lot of musicians do it just for the attention,more than the love of music.
EGO...it isnt just for breakfast anymore.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 30, 2013 9:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Who cares...my catch phrase!

Yea, that has to be a major factor; that was my pt about it's as OCD as me and bball...the money aspect, however, is based on Bob's various comments over the yrs--he's been explicit about it...it's amazing how some of these celebs go thru their money, so though I am inclined to think like you that he SHOULDN'T want for anything, he's made mention of it enough to suggest it matters to him...? IE, his kids and college, the money from SBDs, and such...makes me think it's not "just the principle" of the thing.

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Poster: Jacky Hughes Date: May 1, 2013 5:42am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Who cares...my catch phrase!

That's really cool about the underground paper ! There's nothing wrong at all with amateurish irreverence.

Ahh the early 70's, we really thought we could change the world.
Maybe we did, each in our own small ways.

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Poster: snoori Date: May 1, 2013 1:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Who cares...my catch phrase!

I sorta pictured you hanging out with bud loving Heads at HS.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: May 1, 2013 1:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Someone said anodyne?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZrasPUIVUE

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Apr 30, 2013 1:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Who cares ?

True. I'm afraid the shelf-life of the boys is way past the mold stage and has moved into mummification.


Still love the music, but the attention given to the soap opera crap is getting tiresome.

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Apr 30, 2013 9:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are Deadheads Apologists - or informed Conspiracists?

It pretty much says that you feel about the same way as I do. That's why I took the somewhat irreverent route. There are other things worth getting one's panties in a knot over - and this is not one of them.

Enjoy your afternoon - may you be treated to a murmuration of starlings.

http://vimeo.com/31158841

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Poster: craven714 Date: Apr 30, 2013 9:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are Deadheads Apologists - or informed Conspiracists?

Good lord almighty. Mando is helping create more Hawaiian
islands today. Must be the tectonic plates keeping his head
together that are colliding or just the case of:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XcKBmdfpWs
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vji-hATz0Lg
But you have to admit and agree with AR; he has some good points... whatever those are

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Apr 30, 2013 8:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are Deadheads Apologists - or informed Conspiracists?

Finally, a statement from the band that we can believe. Phew. They had me worried there for a while.